Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Hotels/cottages to stay in Normany

Want to go to Normandy with my husband and two sons (aged 9 and 10) at the end of August, early September. Have not been to Normandy before and wonder if anyone has any suggestions as to where to say - not a touristy area please!




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I assume you are talking about Lower Normandy. My favorite is La Ducrie. You can find reviews and links to it on this web site.





Another option is to search Logis de France for the towns you are visiting. Logis de France provides a booking servce for various local accomdations and restaurants.




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Normandie is pretty wide, where would you intend to go basically?




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We just got back from Normandy. We stayed at La Ferme du Pressoir with our 2 boys (10 and 8) They loved it. Great Location. Check out the reviews on this site.




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I stayed at a really beautiful country manor, Le Manoir de Juganville only 10 minutes from Utah beach, they have 3 large rooms, friendly family run establishment (B%26amp;B). The rooms, and in fact, the whole house is beautifully furnished with a large garden. Really the nicest place that I have have ever stayed in. try their website www.juganville.com




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I stayed at a really beautiful country manor, Le Manoir de Juganville only 10 minutes from Utah beach, they have 3 large rooms, friendly family run establishment (B%26amp;B). The rooms, and in fact, the whole house is beautifully furnished with a large garden. Really the nicest place that I have have ever stayed in. try their website www.juganville.com




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I stayed at a really beautiful country manor, Le Manoir de Juganville only 10 minutes from Utah beach, they have 3 large rooms, friendly family run establishment (B%26amp;B). The rooms, and in fact, the whole house is beautifully furnished with a large garden. Really the nicest place that I have have ever stayed in. try their website www.juganville.com




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I stayed at a really beautiful country manor, Le Manoir de Juganville only 10 minutes from Utah beach, they have 3 large rooms, friendly family run establishment (B%26amp;B). The rooms, and in fact, the whole house is beautifully furnished with a large garden. Really the nicest place that I have have ever stayed in. try their website www.juganville.com

nice in october

Hello,does anybody know about the nices weather in october? Is it possible to sweem.I meen the first part of october.




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October is one of many very fine months in Nice.



You see people on the beach and also in the water. No problem.



Put simple, the swimming comes to a practical end only shortly before X-mas. Then it picks up again sometime in May although there are of course always a few diehards trying the water also inbetween. Theres no particular reason to pick the first half of October.

Staying in Nice, visiting Aqua Splash, Antibes

Hi guys, we are staying quite near Nice railway station and would like to visit Aqua Splash in Antibes. Can anyone please advise on train travel tips / length of journey and if we can pay just to visit Aqua Splash and not the rest of Marineland. Also, approx train travel costs (2 adults and 1 child) and entrance fee. many thanks in advance




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For train schedules, go on the SNCF website (French page) and select the Mandelieu-Vintimille line to get your schedule. Return fare for the family should be somewhere around 25-30 euro.





http://www.ter-sncf.com/paca/Default.htm and select «Telechargement des fiches horaire» then the line you need.





As for Marineland info, I suggest you go on their site to get the info.




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I am pasting a reply I posted in another forum covering the same topic:





Info about tarifs etc is here:





http://www.marineland.fr/index.aspx





It%26#39;s 19 euros for adults and 16 for children just for the aquasplash although you can get combined tickets for other parts too. A couple of years ago I went to the Marineland bit with the sharks etc, quite enjoyed it.





Aquasplash opens at 10am, we took the 200 bus from Nice arrived 10:15 and nearly didn%26#39;t get a sunbed. try and get there before 10, run in and get a sun lounger in the shade, you won%26#39;t regret it.





The cafes on site are a bit over-priced and under quality (McDonalds type food mostly, but far worse) didn%26#39;t open until 11:45, I was desperate for a caffeine hit so had to go to cafe just outside (they stamp your hand) which was nice, recommmend you take a picnic or eat outside. Couldn%26#39;t take coffee into water area but had to drink in the picnic area just inside park. To be honest it was my idea of hell. My 10 year old daughter loved it but even though it was July, mid-week and not all French and Brits were on holiday, we queued 15-20 minutes each time for a 10 second slide or whatever. The wave machine was a bit lame and it was very hot, a concrete jungle. the only way I would go again is if the daughter took a friend to go on the rides and I could hide from the sun on a lounger with a book. If you want to do all the rides, then grab a %26#39;bouee%26#39; a blue inflatable ring and just keep going on the rides. When you have finished you must put the bouee back in the communal pen and then the next time you want one, they have all gone and you end up jostling with everyone else at the bottom of all the slides, hoping someone will have just finished with their inflatable. You are not allowed to hang onto your bouee, you will get told off if you take it to your sunlounger for a break so once you have one, keep going on the rides until you have had enough. There are a couple of rides that don%26#39;t need bouees plus the swimming pool. there is also toddlers pools and a really fast slide for older people, seemed like teenage lads mostly, where they shot out about 15 m from the bottom of this steep slide- you have to wear a helmet for this one, I just wonder how their swimwear stayed on!





Sorry if I sound negative, if it%26#39;s your thing, I am sure you will love it but I hope my tips will help you plan and enjoy the day a bit more. best wishes





In addition, as you are so close tot he station, then the train is your quickest and easiest option, it%26#39;s about 25 minutes and you get off at Biot train station, it%26#39;s a 5 minutes walk or less from there (just follow the families carrying bags with towels poking out) If you take the 200 bus, it stops outside the Biot train station.





If your child is toddler age, the gentle pools and suitable slides are in the far left top corner as you enter the pool area, so head off quickly in that direction if you want any hope of getting a lounger.




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hi there, thanks for your informative responses. I know what you mean re nightmare day but need to accommodate daughter ie alternative to a pebbly beach!!!

Can anyone recommend a restaurant near the Port/Mont Boron?

We are going to Nice on our holidays in Septmeber. We will be celebrating our first wedding anniversary over there.





Can anyone recommend a classy, upmarket restaurant?





Thanks.




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Palais Maeterlinck has a real nice one on its roof.





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The best restaurant we found on our recent trip (last week in fact) was one called La Voglia at the western end of the Cours Saleya (where the flower market is during the day). It is only a few doors away from the Opera House.


It is primarily Italian but with a broad, upmarket, Med feel. I don%26#39;t think you can book there and there were queues every night so either get there early or expect to wait. It is very new (opened May this year I think) and there is a great bar next door also (Ma Nolan%26#39;s Irish bar) where you can get great cocktails for 3 euros 50 before 2100 hrs (2 euros more after 2100) There is seating on an attractive outdoor decking area at both places.


Prices at La Voglia are in the range of 5-8 euros for starters and 12-22 euros for mains. All desserts were 7 euros 50 if I remember rightly. The portions are good - I went for the Fried Mixed Fish (20 euros) and thought it was great. A great mixture of calamari, octopus, king prawns, sardines etc in a beautiful light batter.


You MUST try the profiteroles - 3 huge great ones they were filled with ice-cream and lots of choc sauce and cream presented on a large square, dinner sized, plate. MMmmmmm!!


My fiancee was raving about La Voglia when she returned from Nice in June so I had to try it for myself. Let%26#39;s say I was equally impressed!!


If you want an even better pizza though go to Massena Taverna on Rue Massena - for 9 or 10 euros you can get proper wood fired oven pizzas which are simply divine. Try and get a seat on the top balcony and watch everything going on below you. You can%26#39;t miss the place - it has a green frontage and the afore mentioned wood fire burning away just inside the entrance.


Have a good trip!!


Darren




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The Palais Maetterlinck will not be cheap!!




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They asked for a classy upmarket. That does not sound cheap to me.




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The Chantecler Restaurant in the Negresco hotel is wonderful and we never go to Nice without having a meal there. Their set menu is excellent and they offer a vegetarian set menu too. The service is magnificent and worth the price of the meal alone. People watching during your meal may reap rewards. You can wander the public rooms at will and the bar is a great place for a digestif.

transfer from cdg airport to bw lorette opera hotel. help!!!

I am travelling to Paris in December 2005 and have a few questions that if someone could help me will i would appreciate it very much.



i am unsure exactly how to get to my hotel from the airport. i obviouly use the RER from the airport but were do i transfer to use the metro system.



also is the metro in paris only in france or are instructions in english as well.




thanks




Gary Moore






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RER to Gare du Nord



Change to Metro Line 4, direction Porte de Clignancourt, get off at Barbes Rochechouart



Change to Metro Line 12, direction Marie d%26#39;Issy, get off at St Georges





- or -





RER to Gare du Nord



Taxi to hotel



(I recommend this method over the first since you are unfamiliar with the system)





- or -



You can avoid the train altogether and take Roissybus into Paris (lets off by the Opera), then take a taxi



You buy the 8Euro ticket on the bus from the driver (no need to find the RER station or stand in line to buy ticket)




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There are virtually no instructions to anything in France in English.




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i am going to try and use the metro to get to places like the eiffel tower and the louvre as this is the cheapest form of transport. with my very limited french is it possible.
















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It may be finished by now but the last time I went through St. Georges, the station was closed for renovation.





I also recommend a taxi from Gare du Nord. With your luggage and all the stairs you will need to climb to change between lines, a 5 Euro taxi ride is worth the money.




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Millions of non-French-speaking visitors navigate the metro just fine, and so can you.





Read this %26quot;how to use the metro%26quot; document:



http://www.zpinaddict.com/parishtm/metro.htm

Paris Photo Tours?

Anyone used them or familiar with them?



They seem to have some nice tours, but I%26#39;ve heard about some of these tour companies that are cons.





If anyone has used them, please any info and costs would help?





Thanks



Ani




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I have not used Paris Photo Tours.



I am a professional photographer



and have talked to several people



who have taken their tours and



they were very pleased.





Put %26quot;Paris Photo Tours%26quot; in



the search box and you



should get some posts on



their tours.





If you go to the web



you should be able to



get info and costs



from their web site.

Need some help here?!

Ok..



I%26#39;ve done some research and some reading and so far this is what I%26#39;ve got...please feel free to tell me if it%26#39;s a good way to go about it being a first time Paris visitor on honeymoon...



I have 4 days in Paris...





One day we will do a day trip, maybe to Versailles,Provins or Crecy-la-Chapelle



Another day or two take the L%26#39;open tour and hop off and hop on for some sights (no museums)





Then another day, purchase the 3 day museum pass and explore some of them.





Sounds good?





Thanks!



Ani




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A three day museum pass might be a bit pricey if you are going to do either the Louvre or Orsay. A half day for each still wouldn%26#39;t give you great coverage.




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Why get a three day pass when you will ( according to your plan) only have two days to use it( since you have a day trip planned outside city and then anouther day with %26quot; no museums%26quot; ?



Your plan sounds fine, but since you don%26#39;t sound like you are determined to do alot of museums, just buy a regular admission and save money!




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Nice to see that you haven%26#39;t overplanned your



time. It is doable, try to sequence things



so you don%26#39;t end up backtracking.



Hop on, hop off bus is good; you might



decide ahead of time a few things you



want to see. As always, check the days



and times things are open.



And I hope you will find a favorite



cafe to just sit together and enjoy



the world go by.




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Thanks...





I think I need to do that next, sequence what we want to do and when...for that reason..no backtracking...





I get there on a Monday and I know some places are closed, some museums..so I thought maybe Monday do the hop off n on tour and Tuesday(while taking time to people watch at a sweet cafe) and Wed. maybe do the day trip out of the city and Thursday enjoy some of the museum...

Airport shuttle or a cab?

After reading a multitude of reviewes for both options, I need to take a survey, please:





Cab to the hotel for CDG - how much (Latin Quarter)? Easy to catch at the airport?





Shuttle service - what is the flight is delayed? How do you know where to catch one? Do they have a board with your name?





Please give pros or cons for either. Running out of time!




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Taxi to Latin Quarter will cost 40-55Euro, depending on time of day, day of week, traffic, etc.





Shuttles - I believe you give them your flight information when you book, and they are not waiting for you anyway - you call them before you collect your bags so they will have time to head to the terminal while you%26#39;re getting your bags.





No one comes inside to greet you - you go out a certain door (%26quot;porte%26quot;) that they give you to find the van.





These comments are based on my prior experience, mostly with Parishuttle.com




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travelforever,





As I indicated in a recent post, it%26#39;s a cab for me for



a variety of reasons.




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We took a taxi to and from the airport and liked the ease and convienience. To give you an idea, we arrived on Wednesday around 11:30 a.m. and there was no que at all at the taxi line.




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cab was easy.Just follow the signs and get in line- it%26#39;s very organised. Be prepared though- the taxis area is not right outside baggage claim- you will walk through the airport a bit.



For the trip home, we called the G7 taxi service the evening before- their dispatchers speak English- their guy was on time at 8:30 AM the next morning with the appropriate sized vehicle for the four of us and luggage. Easy as pie.



We were in Paris for over 3 weeks- used mostly buses- sometimes metro or taxis from taxi ranks- but occasionally needed door-to-door service since my Dad had a broken foot- G7 was a great number to have in my pocket. They always showed up very quickly. 01-41-27-66-99

Travelling across the Riviera

Hi,





Flying into Nice for 4 days during September. I want to travel across as much of the Riviera as possible in this short time. I have been to Nice/Cannes/Monaco before so this time I intend on going to St. Tropez, Antibes, Juan le Pins etc. Just wondering what the best way to travel will be bearing in mind my length of stay.





I could hire a car and drive the riviera but my concerns are parking etc. Also I have never driven in France before. The other alternative is to get a %26#39;Carte Isabelle%26#39; and use the trains. The only issue there is that the train wont go as far as St. Tropez. There are 2 of us so all train fares will be doubled hence me considering the hire car.





What do you folks reckon? Also, any places that you recommend I visit bearing in mind I have 4 days.




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I would think the train could get you everywhere you want to go except St. Tropez. I think you can take a bus there. The trains seemed to be really cheap, and if you get a ticket to the farthest place you want to go that day, you can stop at the other towns along the way, on that same ticket. This is my favorite train schedule site:





http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/e





I really enjoyed Villefrance sur Mer, which is 7 min. by train from Nice, heading toward Monaco. It%26#39;s a tiny town with a picturesque harbor and a nice (almost) sand beach - tiny, pea-sized pebbles. It%26#39;s so pretty, it%26#39;s almost like a painting. You can check out my pics here. Click on slideshow and whiz through Paris to Nice and Villefranche. You can tell I liked it, because I took lots of pictures.





community.webshots.com/user/lizandalana




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If your hotel is not in St. Tropez, you should consider renting a car at least for your visit to St. Tropez. The beaches, especially Pompolene beach, is not within walking distance from the port/harbor. A taxis ride to the beach cost from 20-25Euro, each way. The bus service (Sodetrav) stops running by midnight, even earlier on Sunday. I don%26#39;t know about September, but I was there in July and the Sodetrav bus is ALWAYS VERY late. If you don%26#39;t want to go out party til late, then you%26#39;ll be fine just taking the train and bus. Take the train to St. Raphael, then take the Sodetrav all the way to St. Tropez. Or, take the Sodetrav to St. Maxime, then cross the bay over to St. Tropez using the Green Boat. It%26#39;s a nice ride across the bay. If you don%26#39;t have a car and want to party in St. Tropez, then try staying out til 6:30ish AM to catch the first bus back to the train station. We did that, and we weren%26#39;t the only ones. The party scene there don%26#39;t start until 1am.

dress cuture in nice

what is the current dress cuture in nice?




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anthing you like.




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anything you like.




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Hi



Just got back from Nice. I was there as a kid with relatives (in the early 1960s), and remember them dressing up all the time, so asked on this forum about dress codes, and was assured that it was all a lot more informal now.





And it is, in general; as responders to my post said, you can go to restaurants, etc wearing teeshirt/singlet/shorts/swimming shorts. On one occasion, tho, my wife and I walked up from the beach at Villefranche to go and get a drink at a cafe after a swim. Neither of us were quite dry, but I%26#39;d put on a teeshirt anyway to keep the sun off my shoulders. She was just wearing a bikini. She was going to dry off a minute or two more then put on some more clothes. Some middle-aged guy came over to us and had a go at her about being dressed properly; he wasn%26#39;t yelling, but he was annoyed about it all the same, and she explained that she was about to get dressed, etc etc. We wondered for a second if he was the patron of the place, but no, he just walked off out of there.





We sort of took his point, but this place wasn%26#39;t the Ritz, just a cafe/bar. It wasn%26#39;t very crowded, and other people there didn%26#39;t seem offended. He was just some local bully who gets annoyed at all the tourists, maybe, and felt like venting a bit...





Apart from that, as people say, it%26#39;s informal. And apart from him, everybody was really courteous... (Even this guy was courteous, tho, so wrong word, maybe) People were welcoming and friendly and fun, as they usually are in France.




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Yes, anything goes in Nice as far as dress. The one thing I did notice was that women wore skirts/sun dresses down to the beach. No baggy tee-shirts like we might do here in the USA. Take beach shoes along to wear on the beach rocks AND in the Sea...those rocks are hard on the feet. Enjoy.




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No self-respecting French woman would be seen dead in baggy T-shirts OR ill-fitting jeans.




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People do dress up more in France but it%26#39;s up to you whether you join in with this or not. I see someone posted their story of going into a cafe wearing bikini and other beach wear. this would be considered extremely strange behaviour in France! On the other hand it%26#39;s normal to wear very little indeed on the beach. Topless is quite normal.




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People do dress up a lot more in France, and in Italy too, and that%26#39;s something we should admire, I think - it%26#39;s good to make an effort, and shows good manners to guests and tourists and one another.





Maybe we%26#39;re too used to going to the Greek islands, Balearics, etc, where they seem to allow anybody to wear anything at any time as long as they%26#39;re spending money... Maybe it%26#39;s an illustration of local economics.





But we were wrong to go into a cafe so unthinkingly - after all, it%26#39;s not like my wife needed to put on that much, just some shorts and a triathlon top-type-thing - forgetting that even tho we%26#39;d just come off the beach, Villefranche is still a town where people live and go about their day-to-day business.




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is it wear to wear jean in the evening?




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all depends where you are going in the evening. There is no formal wear in Nice unless you go to super classy restaurants. But nonetheless even if it is not formal, a minimum of touch is advisable.




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Same as in, e.g, Brighton.

Help! Lost in Paris...

If anyone could help me with these two questions would be greatly appreciated (it%26#39;s our first time in France):



1. Our group of 4 will need to get from Charles De Gaulle Airport to the Beauvais Airport in the afternoon. Is there a reliable shuttle service? Frequency, also approximate cost, etc?



2. Inexpensive, decent accomodation in the centre of Paris; any suggestions?



Thank you!




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As for the Beauvais airport, i guess it is because you get the low-cost flight there, in that case from the Porte Maillot (line one) outside on Boulevard Pershing coach parking lot you can get a shuttle bus that go to Beauvais airport, i guess it leaves three hours before the flight. Allow yourself extra time as the Porte Maillot is big and some people take time before finding the bus.




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try the Hotel Pratic, a nice 2 stars hotel located in the miidle of the Marais area, http://www.paris-hotel-pratic.com/ , prices are ideal for a small budget. The hotel is clean and nicely decorated. There is a Metro station nearby the hotel. It is a great hotel with nice staff.



Enjoy Paris




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There is no regular shuttle service from CDG to Beauvais. If you were to try to do it using established shuttles, you would take the Air France bus from CDG to Porte Maillot. You would need to arrive at Porte Maillot with enough time to find the shuttle which connects with your flight from Beauvais. That shuttle will leave 3.25 hours BEFORE your flight time. Given that the Air France bus runs every 15 minutes and takes 30-45 minutes to reach Porte Maillot, depending on traffic, you would need to be clear of any formalities at CDG some 4.5 to 5 hours before your flight time from Beauvais.



The cost doing it this way would be €25 each, €12 for the Air France bus, and €13 for the Beauvais shuttle.



A far better option, I think, would be to book a shuttle to take you direct from CDG to BVA. I think the trip shoud probably take about 1.25 hours, and you would need to allow enough time for check-in at BVA. Even in this time of increased security and so on, 90 minutes should be ample, so in effect you have cut the transfer time from 4.5+ hours to about 3 hours.



Do you have enough time between flights?



At a wild guess I would think the cost might be around €125, but I don%26#39;t really know.




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I am looking to go the opposite way. I have a round trip air from Paris to Rome and back through Beauvais. I need guidance from Beauvais to Charles de Gaulle. Plane arrives from Rome at 8:45 am. Flight from CDG to USA leaves at 1:40 pm.




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Yes sorry i misread your post and thought you were starting from Paris. I would also recommend a shuttle bus unless you have a lot of time between your flights.

Various Questions

Hi everyone,





Hoping you guys will be able to help me out with a few questions. My boyfriend and I are planning a few days in Paris followed by a few days in Barcelona in September - ages away I know, but wanting to gather as much info as possible. So, any help would be much appreciated!





We are staying at the Prince Albert Louvre Hotel in the 1st. Can anyone recommend some restaurants / bistros neaby? We are on a budget so nothing expensive I%26#39;m afraid!





We are planning to go to Disneyland as my boyfriend has never been to any of the parks ever! Can you tell me the best way to get there?





Our flight to Barcelona is from Orly Airport so any tips about how to get there would be great.





Finally, we will be there from Friday lunchtime until Tuesday morning. Are any of the main attractions closed on specific days?





Thanks in advance!!





Lolly




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The simplest, least expensive and most convenient way to get from Paris to and from Disnetland Paris is via the RER A-4 ligne (in the dirrection of Marne-la-Vallee/Chessy) from any of its stops across Paris--Etoile, Auber, Chatelet-Les Halles, Gare de Lyon. Trains begin running at approx. 05:30 AM through approx 1:00 AM every 10 minutes or so. The travel time between Paris and DP is approx 40-45 mins. The round trip RER fare is 12,20 Euro per person and you can also purchase DP admission tickets at the same RER ticket booth that you buy your train ticket for 40 Euro. The main gate of DP is approx. 100 metres from the Marne-la-Valee train station. BUT....with only 3 1/2 days for ALL of PARIS open and available to you....unless you are an absolute die-hard Disney-fan, skip DP and leave it for another trip.





There are several ways to get from ORLY to central Paris. One is the ORLYVAL bus from outside of your arrival terminal to the RER B train station at ANTHONY and then the RER B into CHATELET-Les Halles. From there, you could either make your way to the #1 Metro ligne (in the direction of La Defense) to the TUILERIES Metro station, then a two block walk from the exit on rue de Rivoli, up rue du 29 Julliet to your hotel...OR...take a TAXI PARISIEN from the taxi stand at the exit of the Chatelet-Les Halles RER station, the short ride to your hotel at rue Saint-Hyacinthe. A TAXI PARISIEN from outside of your ORLY arrival terminal, directly to your hotel would probably run 30-35 Euro.





ORLY/PARIS AIRPORT TRANSFERS--



http://www.adp.fr/webadp/a_cont01_an.nsf/$$Affich@ReadForm%26amp;cle=X400410411.html




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Thanks so much for the detailed info! Hopefully we won%26#39;t get lost!





L




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I just returned this morning from Paris, and stayed at the Prince Albert Louvre for 5 nights!





There%26#39;s plenty of bars, bistros etc all nearby. I don%26#39;t know if you are having breakfast at the hotel but there%26#39;s a place around the corner called %26#39;215%26#39; which sells loads of nice baguettes, pastries and very good coffee at fairly reasonable prices.





If you turn left out of the hotel, then right, then right again you%26#39;ll be in a square called %26#39;place du Marche Saint-Honore%26#39; where there a few good places, L%26#39;Absinthe bar was good for drinks. We ate at a place called %26#39;Rouge Tomate%26#39; also on the square, prices were average (our mains were 13.50 Euro each but I think they did a set menu deal which was better value) but the food was very, very good!





About 10/15 mins walk away near the Opera there are a couple of streets lined with eateries (Blvd Italiens, Haussman and Montmatre) and we usually ate around there where the prices were reasonable - %26#39;Bistro Romain%26#39; was nice, I think there are several around Paris - good value and good food.





Hope you have a nice trip - I didn%26#39;t want to leave!




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A %26#39;simple but hearty%26#39; eating place is the %26#39;Abre Sec%26#39; on the corner of rue de l%26#39;arbre sec and rue Faubourg st Honor��.





Either the louvre or the Mus��e d%26#39;orsay is closed Mondays, the other is closed Tuesdays - a quick visit to theri websites should tell you which is which.





(Sorry my capitals aren%26#39;t more consistent)




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Of the more popular Parismuseums, the Musee d%26#39;Orsay, Musee Rodin, Musee Marmottan and Chateau de Versailles will be closed on Mondays.





For sorta%26#39; one-stop-shopping for museum Open/Closed days, use this forum%26#39;s SEARCH feature to Search for a previus post entitled, %26quot;..PARIS MUSEUM LINKS..%26#39; for a listing of OPEN/CLOSED days for many museums and direct internet links to individual museums for more detailed descriptions and information.





It is also worth noting that on your FRIDAY, day of arrival, the Musee du LOUVRE is OPEN LATE--until 9:45 PM...which may allow you to extend your day and visit the Louvre with fewer people and clearer sightlines.












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Thanks so much everyone for your hints and tips!





Only 7 weeks to go now and getting excited!





Lx




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KDK! where have you been? your absence has been noticed... hope everything was ok.




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well crap. old post. I was so surprised I didn%26#39;t check the date. nevermind. bah.




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;KDK! where have you been? your absence has been noticed... hope everything was ok%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





Couldn%26#39;t be better...after lying on a beach on Bermuda for 11 days and then another 9 days of museums, theater, dining, shopping (that wasn%26#39;t my idea) in NYC and a few days at a nephew%26#39;s home on an upstate lake-island. Now I%26#39;m paying the %26#39;..price..%26#39; by trying to catch up with %26#39;real life%26#39;. Are you aware that they still send bills when you%26#39;re on vacation? How rude !!!




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KDKSAIL -





Yep, you are back alright !





Thanks for the tip, I%26#39;ll tell them to hold



my bills while I am in Paris in September.

Getting to Versailles

During our 8 day trip to Paris, we%26#39;re thinking of adding Versailles to our trip. Our neighbors are just raving about it! They are from London. Anyway, if we decide to go, would you suggest going on the train, or renting a car and driving.





If we drive, is there anything interesting along the way that we might also want to include in the day trip. AND is it an entire day trip?





Information on restaurants in that area are also appreciated. I guess, if you%26#39;ve read any of my other posts, you realize by now that we%26#39;re foodies!





Can%26#39;t help it!




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Versailles is practically a suburb of Paris - it is all %26#39;city%26#39; between the two. Just take the train. (RER-C to Versailles-Rive Gauche; train names are... VICK and ??; Zone 4)




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Don%26#39;t bother renting a car, take the RER train (do a search and you will see this question has been asked thousands of times), and of course you can make it a whole day trip there, if you do you can enjoy the back of the park with the trianons, and hameau de la reine which is my favorite. Don%26#39;t miss the fountains turned on , on the week-ends. A nice restaurant is La Flotille, right between the gardens and the grand trianon, overlokking the canal, but better to book there.

Where to stay in Paris?

Hi all,



My boyfriend and I will be in Paris in the last week of August for the first time. I would like to ask you where (what neighborhood/district) would you recommend to stay in Paris? We are in our 20ies and looking for a fun neighborhood to stay, where we can find things to see during daytime as well as at the evening and which is also close to some of the most famous sights and attractions. We have been looking at Louvre/Theater District, Champ Elysees or Eiffel Tower/Orsay Museum. What would you recommend? Are these neiborhoods too croweded?



Thank You all very much.




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Ideally, the Four Seasons George V or the Ritz would be my pick. However, it is a little expensive so I%26#39;m staying at Dehly%26#39;s Hotel with the communal showers but it is close to many of the attractions.





If you can afford about 90 euros a night, I recommend the Hotel Michelet Odeon. It%26#39;s in the 6th arrondsisement and close to the Louvre and the most popular attractions.





www.hotelmicheletodeon.com




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Have you received any more advice - I am trying to find the same type of place to stay at the end of August...




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I think the Latin Quarter or around Republique/Oberkampf would be more fun for 20%26#39;s-year-olds...



The Eiffel tower area is apartments and government buildings, not much for evenings.



The Champs Elysee area is somewhat highend and business-oriented, and not very %26#39;charming%26#39;.



The area right around the Louvre/Bourse - also more business-oriented, and probably noisy if room overlooks rue du Rivoli...



The Latin Quarter has a dense concentration of inexpensive hotels, cafes, restaurants (good and bad!) and shops, and more young people due to the Sorbonne.



The Marais/Republique area have developed into a more trendy, nightlife atmosphere, also plenty of restaurants, shops etc.



When you%26#39;re looking at hotels, those would be the 5th, 3rd, 4th and 11th arrondissements.




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Hello KO;We stayed at the Henry IV, small hotel at the Latin quarter;walking distance to the Seine,Notredame,Saint Michel,the Louvre,a big shopping mall and other places of interest.The hotel is in a quiet neighborhood,next to a park.The apartments have a small kitchenette,a living room and a nice bathroom.Good luck.




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I would second travelnutty%26#39;s recommendation



of the Latin Quarter (I%26#39;ve stayed there the



past 4 visits) or the Marais.



Use the search box above to get some



excellent recommendations.




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The Marais area is a good area to stay for fun and for your age range...It is very animated at nights, there are a lot of clubs, bars, etc where you can out by night...It is also interesting to be during daytime....



I stayed in an hotel called Hotel du Marais, mid-range price hotel, very clean and in the 3rd disctrict, so in Le marais. It is very close to a metro stop.



You can see it on http://www.paris-hotel-marais.com





Have a nice trip!




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Check out cosy *** hotel Tilsitt, summer rates are very attractive and just steps away from ChampsElysee makes it ideal location. I heard the breakfast is great too. tilsitt.com


I am going to paris 19-26 august, solo for the first time, trying to get over a breakup.


If anyone is up for coffee, email me at rachel63j at hotmail dot com.

Apartment Hotels/Suites Hotels?

Has anyone stayed in a self-catering/suites hotel in Paris? The sort with a small kitchen and two bedrooms. We are meeting up (from Canada) with our relatives from Los Angeles in Paris for 4 days in early October. We will be 4 adults, no kids. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.




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There are maybe 20 locations for the Citadines apart-hotels...





This is an example, but if you put %26quot;Citadines%26quot; into the Search box at the TOP LEFT, then you%26#39;ll see all the locations...





tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d208096…

The Champagne Region - Day Trip

What train would we catch to go to the Champagne Region?





Is the Champagne Region anywhere near Giverny?




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The train from Paris to Reims goes from Gare de l%26#39;est. You%26#39;ll find any info about this on www.sncf.com (sncf is the French railways company).





Champagne is plain east, while Giverny is north west.




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I went to Reims 40, yes 40, years ago when I was in high school. I lived at and attended school at the university for 6 weeks and we toured around Europe. Reims is fabulous. We went to several champaigne caves for tours. It is really a beautiful place.

first time solo traveller

Hi everyone,



I am going to paris from 19 to 26 aug. to try and get over a breakup ( i know not the best choice of destination) but I want to feel stronger after this.



Have a plan but still worried about being lonely.



Anyone interested in a tour, walk or coffee, drop me a line on rachel63j at hotmail dot com.



:)




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Sorry about your breakup. Although I won%26#39;t be in Paris in August, I would have been interested in having a walk and some coffee and wine with you. Good luck anyway!

Two young women visiting the French/Italian Riviera

We are two 26-year olds and neither of us has been to the Riviera before. We are flying into Nice and planning to travel through the following places: Antibes, Cannes, Villefrance, possibly St. Tropez (is it worth it?), Beaulieu-sur-mer, Monaco, and up into Italy (toward Cinque Terre). We are there for a total of 10 days, and aside from hitting the beaches and visiting some of the museums during the day, we are looking for fun things to do at night. Any suggestions?




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Don%26#39;t miss St.Tropez. It%26#39;s a really neat place. The night clubs don%26#39;t fill up until 1-2am. Papagayo stays open til 5am. It%26#39;s close to the Port/Harbor. My sister and I are around your age and we were just there 2 weeks ago. It was lots of fun. I recommend that you find a hotel in St. Tropez if you%26#39;re planning on partying pass 11:30pm. Taxis there are VERY expensive. Or, you can find a hotel in St. Maxime and rent a moped to get back and forth late at night. We had to resort to hitch-hiking one night cuz the bus system there is crappy!



Air France plane on fire

An Air France flight from Paris to Toronto has gone off the runway and is on fire. CNN says the pilot and copilot are alive, but no other news.




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Unconfirmed reports have 291 on board, 60 have excaped so far. Quite a huge fire, may have been hit by lightning.




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I%26#39;m in Toronto and there will be a press conference anytime. I%26#39;ll try and keep you posted as best as I can. They are working extremely hard on controlling the fire. The pilot and copilot are being debriefed. There is a report that an ambubus has taken some people off the plane. I can%26#39;t confirm this as of yet. It was an Air France airbus A340 flight AF358. We are still awaiting confirmation on this. It was landing in a major thunderstorm.




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An eyewitness claimed that the plane landed far closer to the end of the runway than usual and then there was a big explosion with lots of debris flying everywhere. This was followed later by another explosion. The cause is still undetermined but the newscasters are saying it might have been caused by a vertical downdraft resulting from the storm.




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I know we have a lot of Toronto TA members so I hope everyone is ok.




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News just reporting a stewardess thinks they got all the passengers off, here%26#39;s hoping.




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Local TV just interviewed someone who%26#39;s friend was on the flight and confirmed that many people even though injured got off the plane and taken to local hospitals. There have been no causualties reported as of yet.




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Unconfirmed report on now says all passengers got off. There is to be a press conference soon.




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News confernce now underway. It appears that all have survived the crash but won%26#39;t confirm 100%.




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The press conference reported no known casualties and 14 unconfirmed minor injuries.




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It looks from the preliminary reports that the aircraft was hit by lightning and that it skidded off the runway. However, all passengers got off the aircraft before it caught fire and all are safe and sound (other than a few minor injuries).

Eiffel tower

Are there long queues at the Eiffel Tower? Any suggestions as to time of day to go? Do I buy a ticket there or is there a better place to get them?




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For the Eiffel tower get there early like 8h45 to be among the first people to get there, and they don%26#39;t sell the tickets in advance so you just have to put up with the waiting unfortunately!




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Just make sure you are in the proper line to use the elevator. We %26quot;cleverly%26quot; got into the shortest line.....15 minutes later we realized it was the line to walk up the stairs!!




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We got there about 9:30 in the morning and waited about 1/2 hour to get on the elevator - not too bad at all. It was well worth it.




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We got there about 9:15 and had no queues for the stairs and it looked like about a 15 minute queue to use the lift. We purchased tickets to the top from the 2nd stage with no queues for either the tickets or the lifts. By the time we left (11ish) the queues were all extremely long.




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MidMisty-- do I understand you walked the first flight of stairs then bought a ticket to the top without a waiting line?



We%26#39;ll be there in September-- love the weather comments!



thanks for your help.




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I am not a traitor.





I went up the Eiffel Tower a few years



back and it was ok but nothing super special.



There are better views of Paris elsewhere.





I reveled in viewing the tower from the four corners



of the base and really enjoyed it from the Trocadero.





For many I suspect that they go up because it%26#39;s



the thing to do, they are supposed to and can



then say they did so.





The Eiffel Tower is beautiful and a world renown



beacon of Paris.





My point: If you can%26#39;t get there early enough so there%26#39;s not a 2-3 hour wait, is there not something else you could do with



that time ?




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Just curious how long of a walk is it to the 2 stage ? Thanx Jimmy




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My husband and I were there last week at noon and waited about 25 minutes to walk the stairs. The lines for the lifts were really long...I would estimate that it was at least an hour wait. It took us about 5-10 minutes to get to the first level by stairs. I would say that it took us another 5-10 minutes to get to the second level...bring your walking shoes as this is a workout! We did save some money by doing it this way as tickets to the top were only 7 Euros each. Once on the second level we waited in line for about 20 minutes to take the elevator to the top. It was a good experience, but I think that the Arc de Triomphe has better views of the city since the Eiffel Tower is in the view! Even still, we couldn%26#39;t go to Paris and not do the Eiffel Tower, so enjoy! I also recommend the roof at the Galaries Lafayette for a nice, free view of the city...we were pleasantly suprised!




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Better still, book at the altitude 95 and and have a meal, you go straight to the front of the queue, still have to pay to go up though which I thought was a rip-off, so get there early,but the meal was lovely and we had great views,Janick




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I was there last week. In the afternoon the queue for the stairs was 45 minutes long and the 3rd floor was closed due to too many people. I didn%26#39;t go since I%26#39;ve already been. The really best time to go is in the morning, before the tour buses. Have fun in wonderfull Paris!!!

wine

we will be staying about 3 blocks [hotel therese] from the louve and would really love to find a great place to drink a bottle of wine and watch the world go by, any suggestions?




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There%26#39;s actually wine bars in the area if you want to sample some special wines.




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%26quot;le Rubis%26quot; on rue du Marche Saint-Honore is close by and it%26#39;s very %26quot;old-Paris%26quot;. They also make a great boeuf bourguignon for lunch and always a nice selection of cheeses and charcuiterie.




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Try Willi%26#39;s wine bar- I think it is in the 2nd. Also, Taverne Henri IV- on Place Dauphine(Ile de la Cite) is great. I stayed right across the street from there on my trip and visited on more than one occassion. The manager is a doll, the place is small and he has excellent food and good prices!





Drink a few for me!!!




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PS....the location of Henri IV could not be better. The place dauphine is a most adorable triangular square. It is steps off the Pont Neuf. you can catch a boatride, ron the steps below and you can sit on the beautiful Square du Vert Galant- which is a small green park on the tip of the island. At that point you are right out on the water! Great place to watch a sunset.





Robin




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Willi%26#39;s Wine Bar - 13, rue des Petit-Champs



L%26#39;ecluse au Marche Saint-Honore




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thank you for the suggestions




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You can go to LAVINIA on blvd de la Madeleine or Legrand filles et fils at Galerie Vivienne for excellent wine tastings.



For people watching, find a good sidewalk cafe and look at the list. I prefer to order by the glass at a cafe and a glass of cool (white) Sancerre is my favorite.




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Clicko%26#39;s suggestion is especially good for the %26quot;watch the world go by%26quot; part of your post. %26quot;L%26#39;ecluse%26quot; is on the Place du Marche Saint Honore which is a calm, pleasant and relatively quiet place with a minimum of traffic noise and chaos. Very good people-watching location.

Dream family trip

My hubby and I from sunny south africa are planning to bring our two girls (11/14years) to France in mid June 2006 . We will cross from Dover to Calais and plan to take 4 days to get to Paris where we would then like to board a barge for a weeks trip in the Burgundy area. I am a detail freak when planning a trip and want to make sure we stay in the quaintest/most traditional towns and accomodation so that my girls can experience the true culture of the country. I dont know the Northern part of France at all and wondered if anyone could recommend a route from Calais toward Paris . The quainter/smaller the places the better. I am a %26#39;foodi%26#39; aswell so real traditional type eating is a priority. Lastly if anyone can recommend a barge as well there are so many to choose from. As a traveller my only priority is clean /homely/traditional accomodation and food. (I have to admit I do like a touch of luxury in that!)Hope someone can help. Cheers




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If you want your girls to experience the true cdulture of the country then try and make your trip longer, a week and 4 days is not very long. Also consider renting a gite and staying in a small town for a couple of weeks and doing day trips to sites.



Just google or search for %26quot; french gites%26quot; .




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Hi I would not take a ferry or hovercraft, we used the tunnel on the way to france and the %26quot;high speed%26quot; hovercraft on the way back. The hovercraft once moving takes about the same time as the train but the waiting and boarding delay of the ferry makes the ferry system 4 times longer than the tunnel, go tunnel. My advice for the time you have is go straight to Paris it should only take you a couple of hours. be prepared to be lost in the city when you first arrive and enjoy it, being lost was fun and you end up seeing more of Paris. When you get your barrings find your hotel, hoefully you have chosen a hotel close to the eifel tower. we stayed at novohotel eifel tower I highly recommend it for it%26#39;s location and fine rooms. It faces the Seine and is only a 5 minute walk to the eifel tower. We used the opening bus tour it was excellent and we saw all the sights, there is a bus stop just before the eifel tower. I would spend 4 - 5 of your days in Paris and then head for the coast we stayed in a little town called wissant which is only 20 min. south of Calais the drive from Calais to Wissant along the D940 is breathtaking, I have think it is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Great beach, neat ruins, awesome restruants. I agree with above try and rent a cottage by the beach if possible.




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I don%26#39;t know anything about Northern France, but I am acquainted with traveling with teenage girls. I took my 15 and 17-year-old daughters to Paris, the Frenh Riviera, and into Italy this June. One thing I did that made me a hero in their eyes, was to get on this site and elsewhere on the internet to scope out clothes shops that cater to their age group that I could afford.



So, there we were, walking down the Champs Elysees and we came upon (by design, not by chance - not that they knew that!) a store on the list. I casually said, %26quot;Hey guys, you want to see if you can find something in this shop?%26quot; Needless to say, I came away much higher in their estimation after that.





Promod has several stores, one of which is on the Champs Elysees - junior-type clothes, reasonably priced, spaghetti-strap tops 9.99 euros, layered ruffled skirts that are all the rage - 29 up to 45 euros. Not much different than home.





Etam is another one. I know they have a store in the Latin Quarter and in Nice.





I went to the websites for both and got their locations, and with Promod, I was able to browse their merchandise and prices.





Also, my girls loved staying near the Eiffel Tower. Our hotel was around the corner from the Ecole Militaire metro stop near Invalides. This was their favorite section of town. They said it was so Parisian. They also enjoyed the Latin Quarter. Yes, it%26#39;s touristy, but my girls liked that part about it. What can you say - they%26#39;re kids.




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Down the coast to Normandy? Depending on interest, there are some nice beaches, pretty towns, good seafood along the way, or staight down a newish motorway towards Rouen.


In Normandy, my children loved the Bayeux tapestry, which is like an embroidered cartoon (avoid the introductory displays, if you can - the tapestry speaks for itself).


It%26#39;s also the home of Camembert cheese and Calvados brandy, so plenty of food opportunities!


The tourist board site (in English) is http://www.normandy-tourism.org/gb/index.asp


It%26#39;s not far back into Paris at the end of the trip.


I can%26#39;t help with barges, but we%26#39;re going back to Burgundy in a couple of weeks - another good place for food ;-)


Incidentally, we always use the ferry - it%26#39;s a nice break for a meal on board and you really get the feeling of travel as you see the White Cliffs receding and the coast of France getting closer. Just an alternative point of view.




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Don%26#39;t miss Beaune and Dijon in Burgundy. I would say for Paris the Latin quarter would be better to walk around with kids, you can walk to the Cathedral, to the Louvre etc...while if you stay near the Eiffel tower you will only be able to walk to the tower. I love the Eiffel tower but as for living in an area i prefer the Latin quarter, more lively.




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Sofitel Paris Porte de S��vres & surrounding area

We%26#39;ll be in Paris in November and we got this hotel (Sofitel Paris Porte de S��vres) through priceline and then realized that it is pretty far from the city center. Not that we have a choice anymore, but is anyone familiar with the hotel or the surrounding area? What%26#39;s the best way to get there from CDG? Can we take the RER, or is it combination of that and the metro? Is there anything to do in the area? How far away are we from the shopping and good eating areas? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!




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Just to to clarify, the hotel name is: Sofitel Paris Porte de Sevres




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As you say you are stuck with this hotel, which is just outside the Periphique (ring road around the 20 arrondisements) near the Paris Expo site in the 15th, then the best thing is to get on with it and plan your days around an early metro trip into Paris.





The Tripadvisor reviews suggest people get into this hotel through a %26quot;good deal%26quot; on Priceline. It is said to be a 4 star hotel, which the reviews on Tripadvisor suggest is very questionable and shows how dodgy the star system can be as a guide to picking a nice hotel. Read those reviews so you are not shocked as well as disappointed, as you will discover that the hotel pool is run by another company and you can only wear certain types (%26quot;clingy%26quot;) swimsuits in it. One consolation is that staff of the hotel itself are apparently helpful and friendly.





The closest metro is Balard at the south western end of Metro line 8 (in the direction of Creteil Prefecture on the way out and directin Balard on way home), just inside the Periphique. That line will take you quickly to Metro stops near the Eiffel Tower, and also at Place de Concorde %26amp; Opera, from which you can join up with most other metro lines, or walk to the Louvre, the Latin Quarter or the Marais areas in a very short time. The hotel is also walkable to Metro line 12 station Porte de Versailles which is also just iside the Periphique and near the end of that line in th edirection Mairie d%26#39;Issy (catch metros on this line into the centre pf Paris in direction Pte de la Chapelle).





Remember that the metro stops at 12.30 and make sure you find out the time of the last metro to Balard or Porte de Versailles and where you need to be to catch it. Otherwise, if there is no suitable night bus route available, plan on a longish taxi ride.




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Thanks Faux. Based on what you said, it seems very far from the action. Do you know how I would get to the hotel from the CDG airport? Do you also know how long it takes to go from the hotel via the metro to the Eiffel Tower or Latin Quarter?




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The SOFITEL PARIS PORTE de SEVRE is just barely inside the Paris city limits, on a %26#39;technicality%26#39;. You have a few choices for getting from CDG to the hotel. The first is to simply take a taxi from the regular rank outside of your CDG arrival terminal building---don%26#39;t accept rides from drivers trolling through the terminal offering %26#39;deals%26#39;. Almost every airport taxi %26#39;horror story I%26#39;ve ever heard began that way. The cost should be somewhere between 50-60 Euro (depending on traffic and luggage--travel time will be approx. 45-60 mins).





You other alternatives are:





---Take the ROISSYBUS from outside of your CDG Arrival terminal to its stop at Place de la Opera and then take the #8 Metro ligne, in the direction of BALLARD, to the end-of-the-ligne at BALLARD station and then either walkor take a taxi the several blocks to the hotel.(travel time approx.60-75 mins)





---Take the RER B-3 train from its stations at CDG to GARE du NORD, then take the # 8 Metro ligne, in the direction of BALLARD, to the end-of-the-ligne at BALLARD station, then walk or taxi. (travel time approx 60-75 mins)



---Pre-arrange to take one of the airport shuttele services from CDG directly to your hotel. The airport shuttles that we%26#39;ve used without problem or complaint are:



BLUE VANS-- http://www.bluvan.fr/



PARIS AIRPORT SHUTTLE-- http://www.paris-airport-shuttle.com/



You must telephone shuttle services to let them know you%26#39;ve arrived and need at pick-up, at which CDG terminal building. They almost always have vans at the airport waiting for clients. Travel time will be approx. 50 75 mins-depending on traffic and other drop-offs alonf the way)





For information, fares, details on various CDG airport transfers: http://www.adp.fr/webadp/a_cont01_an.nsf/$$Affich@ReadForm%26amp;cle=X500520521.html





AIR FARNCE COACH--http://www.airfrance.com/double6/passage2.nsf/(LookupPublishedWeb)/en-EXCDG-CarsAF?OpenDocument#




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I stayed at Sofitel Paris Porte de Sevres 2 years ago and found the metro to be very convenient for visiting the Eiffel Tower, Louvre and other sights. The metro is about a 3 block walk from the hotel. On our first day in Paris we did actually walk to the Eiffel Tower from the hotel and back again. A long walk but it was a beautiful day! The hotel also has a very nice bar and restaurant located on the premises. We ate at the restaurant once during our stay when they were able to fit us on New Year%26#39;s Eve after we failed to make reservations for dinner that evening. We had an early dinner and then left the hotel to enjoy the NYE celebration closer in the city center.I have read the reviews on Tripadvisor as well and was surprised by the complaints. Maybe we were lucky with our room and beautiful bathroom. The only downside we found at the hotel was its location but the metro was convenient. I have traveled in Europe extensively and found no reason to complain about my stay at Sofitel Paris Porte de Sevres.




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I just booked a trip with priceline and now I%26#39;m nervous. I don%26#39;t want to have a bad time and now I don%26#39;t want to go based on all of these reviews. Can anyone help? Is it as bad as it seems?




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I feel the exact same way!! Oh my God what did I do?? However, one coment from a member put everything in perspective.....%26quot;Its a great deal%26quot;. I can make the most of it. I will let you know though because my trip is planned fro Sept 21. Wish me luck :%26gt;)




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If we%26#39;re still talking Porte de Sevres here, IT%26#39;S NOT A BAD PLACE! The Metro ride into central Paris is the real downside. That area is as safe as any in Paris and the hotel is nice. I%26#39;ve done a lot of pleasant urban-hiking around there and I don%26#39;t think you%26#39;ll be disappointed. Really.




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It is possible though to get a hotel in Paris and still be further from the tower than Porte de Sevres!



The metro should get you into %26#39;town%26#39; in about 20 minutes and is easier to use than the NYC subway so I wouldn%26#39;t worry about not being in the heart of the action.





As another poster mentioned, it%26#39;s possible to leave the hotel, walk for about 15 minutes and be surrounded by Paris leaving you in no doubt about where you are. The only downside is the metro ending at 12:30 so making a list of places that you could walk home from would be useful.





Not that you%26#39;d really want to, but at an easy stroll, stoping to take in the views, you could walk from the hotel to Notre Dame in the center of town in about 2 hours (4 miles). Paris isn%26#39;t all that big really so that fact that you%26#39;re on the edge isn%26#39;t a disaster :)

hotel prince or leveque??

looking for opinions to choose between these two - i%26#39;m torn, but the people on this forum seem to have such great advice! also open to alternative suggestions in the same price range :)



we were hoping for left bank, fairly central, safe neighborhood, easy walking to the basics.



thanks!




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If you%26#39;re talking about the Hotel Prince in the 7th I highly recommend it. We stayed there last month and were very impressed with the friendliness of the staff, the room size (fairly spacious for Paris standards), the location, and the close proximity to the Metro (across the street). There are several cafes, restaurants, shops and grocery stores in the area. The Eiffel Tower is around the corner. And best of all, it has a/c.




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Some people mention the %26#39;cheese smell%26#39; at Leveque, depending on position of their room compared to the fromagerie located nearby...





but I think someone else mentioned the position of windows at the Prince in some rooms that allow someone in another room to see right in...





It%26#39;s probably a toss-up. Maybe only one will be available and then you won%26#39;t have to %26#39;decide%26#39;.. :)




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I stayed at Hotel Leveque in 2000,



a good location on the rue Cler



with vendors and shops right



out the front door. Early morning



noise as vendors set up so a room



higher up or in the back might help.



It was the first time I stayed in Paris.




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In the same range of prices and with the same location, you also have the lovely hotel Saint Dominique, clear and clean rooms, newly renovated, near rue cler too, friendly staff, little and very nice patio...



really greatly recommend it...



http://www.saintdominique.com



Have a nice trip!

French cusine for beginners

I watched a show on the travel channel a few nights ago and watched the host who was in Paris praise dishes including brains, boar, wild game and blood sausage.





I want desperately to experience Parisian food but are there some starter dishes anyone could reccomend and where is the best palce to experience them?





Thanks so much for your help. I%26#39;ll try to be brave be gentle!




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I am glad that the host on the TV show was praising dishes like brains, blood sausages etc... Many people I know don%26#39;t like to eat those things but those kinds of things can actually be really delicious, especially tripe and pigs feet. I love it. I know a girl from South America and to her, those things are normal and it%26#39;s no big deal to eat them because in South America, they are delicious and it%26#39;s a part of the culture just like in France.





That said, if you want to start out by eating French food for beginners, try the roasted chicken with French fries. Many Americans I know don%26#39;t drink wine so you can order bottled or regular tap water which is available with your meal.





If you want to become more advanced in eating French food, try the onion soup. It doesn%26#39;t really taste like onions but it tastes like a beef soup and it%26#39;s good. I have a friend who hates onions but I think he would like onion soup. Do you like beans? Try cassoulet. Cassoulet is the best bean dish in the world. I love it. Bon Appetit!




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Maybe it%26#39;s the type of places that I go to but out of what you%26#39;ve listed, blood sausage is the only one that I%26#39;ve sen on menues. Brains, boar and wild game may only be available in the more expensive places, I honestly don%26#39;t know!





You see them all (usually) available in food markets though...





If you want to try new food then everything suggested by the poster before me (can%26#39;t remember who!) is worth a try :)




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I always thought blackpudding was Irish. Does bloodsausage originate in Ireland or France then? Tegan you are always the fountain of knowledge....?




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No one really knows where it comes from actually !







A quote from Homer%26#39;s Odyssey - %26quot;As when a man besides a great fire has filled a sausage with fat and blood and turns it this way and that and is very eager to get it quickly roasted...%26quot; which is exactly what a blood sausage is :)





You find them all over Europe though and normall each country has a different twist to it. In England an English breakfast wouldn%26#39;t be %26#39;proper%26#39; without black pudding, while you get white in Ireland and red pudding in Scotland.





In France we cann it %26#39;boudin noir%26#39; and is either a first or second course (never in a breakfast!). Blutwurst in Germany, kishka in Poland and ti-hoeh-koé in Taiwan. It%26#39;s easier to say that a LOT of countries have their own form of pig blood in a sausage rather than to continue to list them all :-)




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I knew you d know Tegan! I wondered where you and IrishR were. Thought maybe you were dancing with the green fairy! Hope you have many happy years of married life- could tell you were in a good mood today!




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Outside most restaurants are boards advertising the specialty of the day-most of these are wonderful. I didn%26#39;t think I would like fois gros because I don%26#39;t like liver, but I love the stuff. Snails don%26#39;ts do it for me or brain. My French husband loves them, rabbit too, which I just can%26#39;t eat. There are many dishes that the French are famous for and when you taste them you will understand why. Beef burgundy, crepes, simples baquets with a thin slice of ham, chicken in cream sauce, coq au vin-chicken in wine sauce, onion soup and just steak with frites. I always like all of their vegetables as well.All of these are wonderful in France. I personally don%26#39;t see much boar or wild game on menus. Be sure and have a little menu translator-in the back of most guide books- when you go to make sure you aren%26#39;t ordering something that you won%26#39;t like and I am sure you will enjoy most of what you eat. You can order wine by the glass or a carafe of the house wine to go with your meal. A fun aperitif-kir, which is white wine with a little cassis in it to make it pink, or a kir royale which is made with champagne.




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Some easy French food for beginners, from a recovering vegetarian and a terribly picky eater...



Magret de canard, which is duck breast. Like chicken, only delicious



I%26#39;ll second the previously mentioned cassoulet, beef bourgignon and coq au vin.



Try an omelette, it is not like the ones you get at home and tastes divine.



Salad au chevre chaud, a salad with warmed goats milk cheese on toasts, even kids love this one!



Sole Meunier is sole fried in egg batter, yum and they eat lots of cod (cabillaud) here that is almost always excellent.



These are all cafe/bistro dishes that you will find at neighborhood joints throughout the city.




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there are wonderful composed salads at all the bistros and brasseries- I love %26quot;chevre chaud%26quot; which is warm goat cheese on toast with yummy greens- steak frites is a staple- also roast chicken and frites- try the duck confit- you wil like that- usually comes with mashed potatoes- creme brulee, chocolate mousse, apple tart- crepes crepes crepes- if you are an oyster eater they are very good- sole meuniere- try the soupe de poisson- it%26#39;s a fabulous rich fish and tomato broth served with grated cheese and toasts- along with a wonderful sauce called rouille that you stir in yourself- yum. Give fois gras a try. All those baguette sandwiches you see everywhere are very fresh and yummy. %26quot;jambon%26quot; is ham, %26quot;saucisson%26quot; is salami, sometimes you will see %26quot;poulet%26quot; which is chicken. Pain au chocolate is a croissant with chocolate inside. If you get a sausage or cheese pastry at the patissierie, they will probably ask if you want it %26quot;chaud%26quot;- warmed up- say oui, merci! You do not want andouillette. You do not want pied du cochon. You probably don%26#39;t want tete du veau, either. Boudin Noir is actually quite tasty- but you don%26#39;t have to go there. There is plenty of stuff- you will not starve, mon ami! Bon Vacance!




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My husband goes mad on the fish soup in France he cant get enough of it! And for me its the creme brulee!




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Oh thank you! What a relief, brains and bunnies are not the only dishes found on the menu! I%26#39;ve had many of the dishes you suggest and look forward to trying them again in Paris.





Now if I could just remember how someone told me to ask for no mushrooms in my food. Does anyone know? I am so allergic.





I am so excited we leave in about 6 weeks. Thanks for putting up with my questions.

Ventimiglia market

Will be in Nice after several years, in Sept - is it worth visiting the market in Ventimiglia?? Is it local stuff etc or is it a bit %26#39;cheap%26#39; and nasty!!!??? Is it still the case that Friday is the day to go???? Thanks for any replies.




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I went a couple of weeks ago and quite enjoyed it for the first hour or two, then it got very busy and we were glad to get back to Nice by lunchtime. The train journey was horrific; the doors open and there is a wall of people against whom you flatten flatten yourself and hope that your nose is in the armpit of someone familiar with deoderant. I would say you are vulnerable to pickpockets on the train as well as at the market. If you make a right turn on reaching the market, there are some very nice bag stalls with really good quality leather and different styles based on designer bags but not copies. These are fixed price and not open to haggling, prices from 80 to 300 euros. Seems a lot but very good value for the leather and workmanship. There is a great shop that sells leather belts from about 15 euros to 25 euros. You choose your piece of leather, then choose a buckle and it is made to measure there and then. Towards the left side of the market, it looked more cheapy sort of rubbish, fake dior bags at 3 euros etc. I was fascinated by the mostly African-looking men who were selling fake goods out of bags and suitcases, they don%26#39;t have market stalls at the market. At the first sign of the Italian Police, they mely away enmasse only to reform seconds later. We saw several tourists who had just bought from these chaps being stopped by the police and they were getting ID papers out. There has been a bit in the news in the UK about the problem of buying fakes and there is a clamp-down and tourists are being caught and fined, heftily. I would stick to the market stalls and get receipts. Mostly it is a bit %26#39;chap and nasty%26#39; but there are a few gems to be had if you persevere. best wishes




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Yes it is still on Friday mornings that every one goes to the market. Yes it is IMO too touristy (I prefer the Sanremo market on Saturday mornings). Like all public markets, beware of pickpockets One thing I like is going to the «real» market, the food market wher the Italians go. THAT is fun if you are into seeing the locals%26#39; way of life. If you understand some Italian, it is even funny to hear the,m bargain and whine about the weather. 2 hours in Ventimiglia is quite enough for me.

How can I get Courtyard Paris Neuilly from/to CDG?

I will go to Paris on Aug 20 and will stay at Courtyard Paris Neuilly please advise the best way to get from this hotel and CDG?



Thx,




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Please search for other posts to learn about the options (taxi/public transport/shuttle). Your trip to Paris will be much easier when you find things out for yourself :)





It all depends on if you want to get there quickly, cheaply, etc....




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I would take a taxi!! It%26#39;s fast and not that expensive. But if you are on a budget you can take the Air France navette (it%26#39;s a shuttle bus) that will drop you to Concorde Lafayette. Then you will take a taxi for a very brief (not even 5 min) course to the Marriott in Neuilly. The area of Neuilly is very distinguish and you will see rarely any tourists. But Paris is just minutes away...Enjoy your stay.

buying a printer in Paris

I%26#39;m going to be in Paris for five months, and I%26#39;m bringing along my laptop. I%26#39;d like to buy a cheap printer in Paris for use while I%26#39;m there. Is there an area of the city that I should look in for computer stores? Are they as cheap as they are here at home in the USA? (Basic printers are about $100 USA.) As an addition, should I be worried about any problems with the laptop? It has a convertor built into the power pack.





Thanks.




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I guess it depends on what you want this printer to do.





Docs or photos for example ?





www.surcouf.com is the website for the Surcouf chain of stores. There are 2 of them in Paris (I think), one by Nation and the other by Opera. Consider them computer supermarkets.





The branch by Nation is in the heart of the Parisian computer area. The streets around it including Rue Montgallet and the Rue de Charenton. It%26#39;s about a block of 100% computer stores and it%26#39;s heere that you%26#39;ll get the best price in town.





There%26#39;s a website with a lot of the stores listed where you can search prices...





http://www.rue-montgallet.com





The cheapest printer that you can get is about 50€ (Epson Stylus C44+)




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There%26#39;s %26quot;cheap%26quot; and there%26#39;s %26quot;CheapButNotReally%26quot;.





I sought the exact same thing in April 2004, bought a cheap (50 Euro) Lexmark printer and thought I was set. Then, after just a few days of 10 pages here, 5 pages there, I needed a new 22 Euro ink cartridge. In 6 months I spent more than 350 Euro on ink. I printed black and white almost exclusively but the color ink cartridge still was tapped and I went through 3 of those (29 Euro each) even though I only printed a handful of color pages (beware of cheap Lexmark printers!).





That%26#39;s exactly the business model HP, Lexmark, Canon et al, have. It%26#39;s the free razor and the dollar-a-piece razor blades.





Soon after I tore all my hair out, I bought a cheap (220 Euro) HP LaserJet, a LASER printer that uses toner, not ink and I%26#39;m still on my original cartridge.





Surcouf is good because they have the selection but the sales staff is a little %26quot;Aloof%26quot; (pun totally intended. Surcouf-Aloof....nevermind). They are also more expensive unless the item you want is on sale.





ptegan%26#39;s recommendation about the little shops around the Surcouf in the 12th is golden. Also, FNAC Digitale in the 5th (on Bvd St. Germaine between Bvd St. Michel and Odeon) will supposedly %26quot;match any price%26quot; and they have a lot less attitude and better customer support. Good selection too.




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By its very nature inkjet printers are loss leaders. They practically give them away so you can buy their ink cartridges. This is same for any brand.





There is Office Depot www.officedepot.fr




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O/T: These days a cheap laser printer typically comes with a reduced-capacity cartridge. A replacement could cost 70 Euro. However, b/w laser printer has much lower operating cost in the long run.




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Thanks. Invaluable help!




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If your going to Paris by Eurostar from London then buy one there. Bit of a pain to carry with you, but cheaper (and if I%26#39;m on Eurostar at the time I will be moaning about you!!)




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Good advice from Paris fanatic - but if you do buy printer in UK, make sure you buy a UK to Europe adaptor plug for it (they sell these in the WH Smith in the Waterloo Eurostar terminal, they%26#39;re about £3 each) before you go. In fact, you%26#39;ll also want to make sure that you have US to Europe adaptor plugs with you as well.




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As some otherposters said :





- Cheap and no service nor advice : go to rue Montgallet (close to Gare de Lyon). It%26#39;s a kind of technoChinatown. Tons of small shops, low price, low service (and don%26#39;t complain about rude parisiansafter that!!)





- Easier, more central but a little bit more expensive : FNAC stores,mainly theFnacdigitale, boulevard Saint Germain, and the FnacEtoile, avenue des ternes (www.fnac.com)




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Capo - a lot of printers sold in the UK come with European stype power lead, so check the box first. If you do have to buy an adaptor go to one of those shops that sells everything cheap or a branch of QD, Poundland and pick one up for £1 or less.

Just back from Paris

Just a few notes about my trip to paris. Wow what a beautiful place. My biggest pleasant supprise was that after previous nightmare trips, the parisian mentallity has completely changed. I really tried to learn some french but I%26#39;m a disaster. It was amazing, everyone spoke english and really really well. The cab driver engaged me in conversaiton (in english)





Went to the Musead%26#39;orsay cant tell you how beautiful it was. What really struck me was the %26quot;merchandising%26quot; of the art. Each piece was places in a special place, and the physical beackground of the museaum was beautiful.





Two suggestions that may help. Before you leave home, get a bus map. The metro is fine but it doesn%26#39;t run eveywhere. I had a nightmare of a time going to tourist attractions along the river since there seems to be no mass transit in that area. of course this forced my to walk everywhere which probalby was great but it cut down on my time for attractions. I%26#39;m sure there was a way to do this but I couldn%26#39;t find out.





Second and most important plan meals ahead. I had the worst meal of my trip in paris. I was late for my train and ran to the train station. I figured the food would be really bad inside so I tried to get food outside...what a mistake. I knew I was in trouble as soon as I saw the tourist menu but I needed to take a train. I ordered toasted ham and cheese I mean how could they mess that Up. The food all tasted like somehting had spilled in the oven and was burning.. what a discrace. The pomme frites were worse than our generic frozen french fries not skinny or fat just wrong. This whole fiasco cost me 34 euros!!! Do some research before you leave and try not to wait until you get hungry to find someplace to eat.





Please feel free to ask questions if you want.




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Glad you had a good trip, and that was a good tip about not getting too hungry and having to settle for yucky exspensive food!



thanks!




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It%26#39;s true that it%26#39;s not that easy to get from place to place taking the metro if it%26#39;s attractions by the river that you need to get to. The bus is muche asier but I never mention it as a lot of people are already taking a big step by taking the metro. :-)





The Batabus is a river shuttle that stops at most of the major sites on the Seine and it%26#39;s €11 for a day ticket.





Glad you had (mostly) fun though :)




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Hi !





I%26#39;m glad you like Paris...





For the food : never buy food IN the train : sandwichs and stuff like that are really bad and expensive.





If you have a money to spend and time go to %26quot;LE TRAIN BLEU%26quot; gare de Lyon before, you can have a nice meal for maybe 50 euros in a VERY nice place !




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A very nice Metro ticket guy gave me a bus map early on in our trip- they are available for free- it was in tatters by the time we left. We were staying on the Avenue Rapp and there is not a close metro station, but the #69 and the #87 bus stopped right at the end of the block and we used them every day.



This map was invaluable. The bus info wasn%26#39;t on any tourist map I had. I bought a PARIS PAR ARRONDISSEMENTS at Borders before we left- the RATP bus map and schedule is in there too, but the bus stops are not shown on the maps.

Non-Touristy restaurants

I have already done a search but no specifics come up- any recommendations for a non-touristy restaurant with lots of atmosphere-we don%26#39;t want to be surrounded by a ton of Americans- thinking of Natacha(14e) and Le 3 in the Marais. Any ideas- end of August is our date! Thanks in advance for any advice!:)




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Frommer%26#39;s puts had a travel guide called \%26quot;Paris starting at $90 a Day.%26quot; I%26#39;ve tried maybe a half a dozen of their recommendations and haven%26#39;t been disappointed yet. And, despite the fact that the places are listed in a travel guide, often my husband and I are the only tourists in the place. I highly recommend picking it up.




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Well if they get posted here then they will become %26quot; touristy%26quot; restaurants now won%26#39;t they! LOL



Just try wandering a neighborhood and going into a restaurant that does NOT have a english menu posted outside!



Good luck!




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I was going to suggest %26quot;le 3%26quot; in the Marais but apparently you%26#39;ve had an American experience there. I have only heard english spoken in %26quot;le 3%26quot; once in more than a year and it was with a very pleasant and amiable New Yorker at the table next to us back in May (I think). We eat lunch or dinner there 4 or 5 times a month so I%26#39;m a bit surprised.





Other possibilities:





%26quot;Melac%26quot; in the 11th, 42 rue Leon Frot. I love the restaurant and the wine and the owners and the potatoes and the plat du jour any day.





%26quot;l%26#39;Industrie%26quot; just north of Bastille. 16 %26amp; 17 rue St. Sabin. GREAT sauces and a very affordable lunch (but you have to ask for the %26quot;carte formule%26quot;.





For dinner, %26quot;Au petit theatre%26quot; at 15 Place du Marche Saint-Honore is excellent.





The best lunch salads we know of are to be found at %26quot;le Cactus%26quot; at 28 rue des Archives in the Marais.




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Maybe I was misunderstood- i was thinking of Le 3 as a non-touristy place-I have never been and have only read about it. I want to try it. Has anyone been to Natacha in the 14e?




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My apologies. It was me that misunderstood.




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Where will you by staying in Paris?




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Hotel la Perle in the 6e- one of the few boutique hotels that have a/c and don%26#39;t allow pets! Do you have any other suggestions or advice?




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search for the Fetes galantes, rue de ecoles, small, nice and tasty

Transporation from the airpost to hotel

Could anyone recommend a airport shuttle? There are 4 of us traveling from Roissy to our hotel, The Incontinental on Rue De Castiglione.




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Take a taxi that will accomodate 4 or Roissy bus to Opera and then do the 5 minutes walk rolling your luggage (that%26#39;s what I do).




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The Roissybus goes to the Opera area, drops off at rue Scribe.



You buy the 8-Euro(or so) ticket from the driver.





Here is a map and directions for walking the 700-800 meters to the hotel (that%26#39;s about 1/2 mile):





http://linktrim.com/2v1





A taxi from the Opera would be maybe 7-8Euro..? (there%26#39;s a minimum of at least 5Euro, + actual meter + bag charge + extra passengers...)

Prince of Monaco's Car Museum

Has anyone been? Does anyone recommend? Is it too similar too simply watching the cars drive up to the casino too be worthwhile?? Thanks a bunch!




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I have no firsthand knowledge of the car museum.



In the absence of other replies: The museum contains the cars used by the ruling family. Its a historical collection of limited size.



At the streets of Monaco, you see above all contemporary cars.




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Thanks for your help!





When there were no replies I actually searched harder on the web and have a more clear picture---





europeancarweb.com/features/0302ec_monaco/





I will check with my husband if it something he wishes to see!





Thanks again!

cigarettes

can you get davidoff classic cigarettes in france??




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Sorry don%26#39;t know yes or no, I am wondering if anyone has a favorite French cigarette? I have some friends that love %26quot;good%26quot; cigarttes, (not that any really are) A light cigar would be good too. Thanks.




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You can get Davidoff lights, regular and the magnums, in addition to the cigarillos, in most tobacconists. The cigarettes are currently €5 a pack.




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wuhuu:) that made my day. thankzzz=P

Caen Museum question

I am trying to find out if there are long lines to purchase tickets at the Caen Memorial Museum. I can save a few dollars with my teacher discount, but I will gladly skip the discount if there is a long line. My travel agent said that she can get me tickets in advance but at the regular admission price. The visit would be at about 12:30 to 1:00 on a Friday...Thanks to all replies. Anita




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The lines to purchase tickets are not long, less than five minutes. I was at the museum twice, in June 2000 and in August 2003. It is a well-designed museum with many thought-provoking exhibits--don%26#39;t miss it.




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Following a visit to the Normandy sites and



the American Cemeteryin September 2003,



I visited the WWII Memorial Museum at Caen.





There was hardly any wait and I found



the Museum facinating. The gift store



was filled with more books on WWII



than I had ever seen. Excellent displays.




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Thanks. I think then I will purchase my tickets at the museum directly and save a few bucks...Anita




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If you%26#39;re really London-bound, the Imperial War Museum in South London has what we consider the most effective Holocaust exhibit of the three that we%26#39;ve visited. These include The Caen Memorial and The Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. The IWM is well worth seeing if you can manage to go while you%26#39;re in London.